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Alerts and pop-ups you were not expecting

Some of the most alarming-looking messages people see have nothing to do with the software installed on their device. Knowing where a message was drawn is nearly always enough to tell which kind you are looking at.

The short version

A web page cannot examine your device. If a message appears inside a browser tab, scrolls with the page, or asks you to ring a number, it came from a website, not from your security software. Close the tab — or force the browser to quit if it will not close — and carry on. No call is required, no payment is required, and nothing needs to be installed.

Where the message was drawn tells you what it is

Software installed on a device can put a message in the operating system’s notification area or in its own window. It has access to the device because you installed it. A web page has no such access: it is rendered inside a tab, in a sandbox designed to keep it there, and the information it receives about you is limited to what any site receives — browser and operating system strings, screen dimensions, language settings, and an approximate location derived from your IP address.

That last point explains why a fake warning can correctly name your operating system and your city. It is reading ordinary request headers, not your computer. A page that lists specific infections, file names or a count of threats has invented all of them.

Two kinds of message, side by side.
CharacteristicYour own security softwareA web page imitating one
Where it appearsOperating system notification, or the product’s own windowInside a browser tab, often full screen
Behaviour when you scrollUnaffectedMoves with the page, or the page will not scroll at all
Behaviour when the browser is closedStill thereGone
What it asks of youA decision inside the product: quarantine, allow, scanRing a number, install something, enter card details
ToneDescriptive, with a detection name and file pathUrgent, counting down, warning of imminent loss
Contact detailsNone; support is reached through the vendor’s own siteA prominent telephone number, sometimes read aloud

The techniques these pages use

None of them are sophisticated, and all of them are easier to ignore once named.

What to do, in order

  1. Do not ring the number and do not install anything the page offers. That is the whole objective of the page, and declining it ends the matter.
  2. Close the tab. If the page resists, close the browser: Ctrl+Shift+Esc then End task on Windows, or Command+Option+Escape then Force Quit on macOS.
  3. Reopen the browser without restoring tabs. Decline the offer to reopen what was there before, or you will land straight back on the page.
  4. Review notification permissions. In your browser’s settings, find site notifications and remove any site you do not recognise.
  5. Run a scan with the software you already have. Not because the page did anything, but because it is a reasonable way to settle the question for yourself.
  6. Check browser extensions if pop-ups keep appearing on many sites. Persistent pop-ups across unrelated sites point at an extension rather than at any one page.

If you went further than that

People do follow these pages, often because the timing was unlucky or the caller was convincing. The response is practical rather than dramatic.

Questions people ask about these pages

Can a website tell whether my device has a virus?

No. A web page runs inside the browser and cannot read the files on your device, inspect its memory or run a scan. A page that displays a list of infections it claims to have found on your computer has found nothing; the list is written into the page in advance. The information a site genuinely receives is limited to things like your browser type, your approximate location from your IP address, and your screen size, which is why a fake alert can name your operating system correctly and still know nothing about you.

How can I tell a real alert from a fake one?

Look at where it is drawn. A genuine alert from security software appears outside the browser, in a notification from the operating system or in the product's own window, and you can still reach the rest of the screen. A fake one lives inside a browser tab, moves when you scroll the page, disappears if you close the tab, and usually asks you to ring a telephone number. Genuine security software does not give you a phone number to call.

What should I do if a full-screen warning will not close?

Close the browser rather than the message. On Windows, press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to open Task Manager, select the browser and choose End task. On macOS, press Command+Option+Escape, select the browser and choose Force Quit. When you reopen the browser, decline any offer to restore the previous tabs, or the same page will load again.

I called the number. What now?

Stop and take stock rather than continuing the conversation. If you installed anything or allowed remote access, disconnect the device from the internet and run a full scan with your own security software, then change the passwords for your email and banking from a different device. If you made a payment or gave card details, contact your bank straight away. Report what happened to Scamwatch, and to ReportCyber if it involved cybercrime.

Are these pop-ups a sign that my antivirus is not working?

Not usually. Blocking every page that displays a misleading message is a web filtering job rather than an antivirus one, and no filter catches everything, because these pages are created and discarded constantly. Seeing one means a page loaded, not that anything reached your device.

Where to take it further

The eSafety Commissioner is Australia’s online safety regulator and publishes guidance aimed at families, schools and older Australians, along with complaint pathways for serious online abuse. For privacy consequences — personal information exposed or mishandled — the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner is the regulator. General guidance on personal cyber security is published by the Australian Cyber Security Centre.